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Topic: the docs?

I know.. "the docs" are super old right now. We definitely intend to update them (want to help? let us know tongue), but in the mean time do check out http://lsdocs.shellfront.org . They're not too incorrect.. and will provide you with some base information before posting here.

using LS since 1998. Old FPN site operator, owner of ShellFront, keeper of other LS domains
State of the Step 2011

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Re: the docs?

Of course there is still the manual that comes with the installer smile

Also found here: http://www.lsdev.org/cvs/*checkout*/lit … manual.txt

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Re: the docs?

For French user, there is a website :  LiteStep-France.net, the docs are old and mainly concern the installation process.
note : i have make a backup of these website at home.

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Re: the docs?

I could help update the general intro and installation of the docs as I've done something similar before: http://brembs.net/litestep/win2k.html

However, given that LS crashes on all of my machines on startup except my laptop and the last version is an alpha from 2009, I propose we first need to have a version that starts on win7 and both on the 32 and 64 bit versions. This means we first keep this as the small insider project it is, test it among ourselves and when we are reasonable confident that 'outsiders' will have a decent experience, we update any documentation.

If we start updating the docs now, we might be putting a lot of work into something that
a) is hardly read by anyone as everyone using LS knows what they're doing anyway
b) will probably change soon anyway as LS is made to fit win7.

Does that make sense?

LiteStep addict since b23. http://brembs.net

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Re: the docs?

brembs wrote:

I could help update the general intro and installation of the docs as I've done something similar before: http://brembs.net/litestep/win2k.html

However, given that LS crashes on all of my machines on startup except my laptop and the last version is an alpha from 2009, I propose we first need to have a version that starts on win7 and both on the 32 and 64 bit versions. This means we first keep this as the small insider project it is, test it among ourselves and when we are reasonable confident that 'outsiders' will have a decent experience, we update any documentation.

If we start updating the docs now, we might be putting a lot of work into something that
a) is hardly read by anyone as everyone using LS knows what they're doing anyway
b) will probably change soon anyway as LS is made to fit win7.

Does that make sense?

I'm using LiteStep just fine on Windows 7 (64bit) without any crashes. As far as setting the shell, there's only a difference of setting one extra reg key. Outside of some non-functional tray icons (which there is a fix for, apparently), LiteStep is pretty much good to go on Win7. 0.25.0 is the version that's meant to run on 32 and 64bit machines, and there's suprisingly very few blocking bugs.

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Re: the docs?

For me, all LS installations crash on startup and then run fine (but some systray functionality is gone, see my posts to the LS mailinglist - archive should still be online), except for my laptop, where it doesn't crash on startup. On the list, people have confirmed crash on startup as a bug in the 2009-04-04 version of 0.25... No idea why it doesn't crash on my laptop as all my installations are carried out the same way.

LiteStep addict since b23. http://brembs.net

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Re: the docs?

brembs wrote:

For me, all LS installations crash on startup and then run fine (but some systray functionality is gone, see my posts to the LS mailinglist - archive should still be online), except for my laptop, where it doesn't crash on startup. On the list, people have confirmed crash on startup as a bug in the 2009-04-04 version of 0.25... No idea why it doesn't crash on my laptop as all my installations are carried out the same way.

Regarding your crashes, are you lucky enough to get errors?

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Re: the docs?

Nope, it just starts without shell and an open filemanager window. Once I start LS with the taskmanager, all is fine.

LiteStep addict since b23. http://brembs.net

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Re: the docs?

Actually that happens to me too, but without the filemanager part. When I boot my laptop I have no shell at all. I have to start LS using the taskmanager. But I reboot my laptop once every two to three months or something like that, so I'm not too bothered by it...

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Re: the docs?

And for me it's the other way around: all my machines except my laptop crash LS :-)

LiteStep addict since b23. http://brembs.net

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Re: the docs?

Tobbe wrote:

Actually that happens to me too, but without the filemanager part. When I boot my laptop I have no shell at all. I have to start LS using the taskmanager. But I reboot my laptop once every two to three months or something like that, so I'm not too bothered by it...

I thought you were still on XP? I was under the impression that Brembs issues were because he was running Win7. Am I mistaken?

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Re: the docs?

I'm still on XP. But I'm not ready to say it's LS's fault it isn't starting properly on my machine. My computer takes about 20min to boot, so there's something not right with it, I just don't know what atm.

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Re: the docs?

I'm on XP as well. Litestep works fine for me 99% of the time. I do have a problem with lsxcommand crashing LS if it has an error.. and I'm not sure what's up with that since it didn't happen until recently.

Then again, I'm using a super old build of LS tongue

using LS since 1998. Old FPN site operator, owner of ShellFront, keeper of other LS domains
State of the Step 2011

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Re: the docs?

I found out that some of my issues go away when I uncheck "require administrative privileges" on litestep.exe. However, my desktop now crashes on recycle (win7 64), while my laptop doesn't (win7 64)...

LiteStep addict since b23. http://brembs.net