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Topic: LS suddenly crashes and closes

LiteStep suddenly crashes through use other applications sad

I use Windows 7 x64 and LiteStep 2009-04-04 experimental build, because when i use the normal build (included in LOSI) the Desktop Background cannot be seen.

Previously not happened, it began few days ago hmm

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I keep on getting unexpected crashes all the time on both XP and 7 and I recently switched back to explorer on my working PC.

LS is simply not mature enough to use...sadly

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LiteStep crashes are almost always caused by buggy modules, not bugs in the LiteStep core itself. Try removing one module at a time from your current theme until the crashes stops. That'll tell you what module is causing the crashes. When you found the guilty one, please tell us which one it is!

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@Tobbe:
Using xTaskbar-2.3.4.dll crashes my litestep ocasionally when i set a custom icon for file explorer windows.

When i hook modules using xLabel-4.3.dll i get a bug with missing $themedir$ (module needs that evar however i never use it) and randomly when i leave litestep idle it ocasionally occurs that some random label or module hooked to a label sets it's position to 0,0 (left upper corner).

Remember that xmodules use xPaintClass-1.0.dll so it might be a bug in it as well. The very popular xStatsClass-1.1.5.dll is clear as I removed it and I still get the bugs.

I really think that the success of LiteStep as a shell replacement relies on the quality of all the xmodules as these are the only reasonable ones to display tasks, systray and other gui.

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1 - did you try re-install LOSI?
2 - xpaintclass-1.0.dll latast version is 1.0 rev. 7 and wants to resides only on $modulesdir$ not on $litestepdir$ or both.  if it's your case, fix it.
3 - there are some modules re-writen to x64 around the web. maibe someone can share with you.

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free, I fully agree that the success of LiteStep is largely thanks to the modules. But unfortunately the developer of the xModules is not active in the community any more, so it's hard to get any bugs fixed sad

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"... I probably won't code on any (x)module anymore.
It's useless, if only 20 people in the whole world actually make use of it (nearly no new themes these days)."
Andymon - "Andymon interview 2006 at customize.org"

Considering the current state of LiteStep (and "LiteStepers") you think he would come back now? I would appreciate it.
some time ago ls-universe died with ls-themes. until that day he did updates. If he came back, I would like to ask you some questions for him.

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Considering Tobbe's quote i think he won't come back.
However I think that the success is possible only when xmodules are developed or if there will be a better alternative.
Litestep is useless without these modules.

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Re: LS suddenly crashes and closes

I found something that might be useful for you.
http://atde.deviantart.com/journal/Lite … -220939241

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free wrote:

@Tobbe:
Using xTaskbar-2.3.4.dll crashes my litestep ocasionally when i set a custom icon for file explorer windows.

make use of: "xtaskbarnameUpdateInterval 100" and erase any "*xtaskbarUpdateIcon"

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UpdateInterval is set to 100 by default. I dont use UpdateIcon anywhere.

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default is 100? sure? you read the xtaskbar docs?

UpdateInterval INT
Sets the update interval of the task buttons to check for changes. If no value is provided, then the default is 1000 (ms).

default is 1000 ms = 1 sec, 100 ms = 0,1 sec

Please try this configuration in addition to *xTaskbarIcon and tell me if it works. (no crashes)

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Re: LS suddenly crashes and closes

Hello,

I think I might be having the same issue.  My installation of LiteStep would suddenly crash soon after my login, using Windows XP.

I think that the crash is a bug in the LiteStep core because I tried tracing the problem to one of the modules, one at a time.

After a fresh install, I tried editing my step.rc by putting a semicolon before the following line:
include                 "$ThemeDir$theme.rc";

Since LiteStep was set as my default shell in my registry, I presume that I was loading LiteStep without modules this way, and it was still suddenly crashing in this configuration.

This puts the bug in LiteStep core, or in NetLoadModule2.dll.

I modified my step.rc file so that it does not call for NetLoadModule2.dll to be loaded, and I modified my theme.rc file so that it loads modules with lines such as this one:
LoadModule "$ModulesDir$\vtray-1.10.dll"

Still, the same crash.  That puts the bug in LiteStep core.

The crash happens almost instantly after icons for my network connections appear on my system tray (if I have loaded the vtray module for that run).

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I did set up a workaround for the bug.

I set LiteStep as my shell.  I made an MS-DOS batch file that bangs LiteStep with a !Quit command, so that LiteStep stops without generating an error message, and I put it into C:\Documents and Settings\Myself\Start Menu\Programs\Startup.

The stage where the startup folder is executed comes before the stage of the crashes.

I run Emerge Desktop not-as-shell strictly as an alternative to LiteStep's popup module, and Emerge Desktop is loaded from the startup folder.

(Yes I did test LiteStep without Emerge Desktop.  That's been done already.)

So after LiteStep checks out, I call it up again with the Emerge Desktop launcher.

I have embarked on all of this installing and configuring of LiteStep because Emerge Desktop insists on quashing the Explorer taskbar.  I love Emerge Desktop as a launcher only, and I hate iconizing taskbars.  LiteStep is now serving as a non-iconizing taskbar for me, plus a clock and a system tray.

LiteStep is great actually.  But you have a bug there.

In LiteStep, I load jdesk-0.711, xtaskbar-1.1.5, vtray-1.10, and kclock-1.6b (none of which apparently were making it crash).

Kclock is an old component that I found at shellfront.org that I learned how to configure.

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Italick, are you running 0.25.0 or 0.24.8?

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I'm runnning 0.24.8, the version currently distributed at litestep.net.

I used the self installer linked on the main page.

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Italick, check your Visual C ++ distributions I had a similar problem a while ago. If you need a list of what I have let me know and I will post it.

Windows 7 x64